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Ilesttoutjustevingt-troisheuresEst-cequ'onpeutpasseràunautresujetquelinc.del'Europeetparcequec'estimportantaussi,aspireeuh,l'Europequiestenpanneaujourd'huieuhdeuxansaprèsel'échecduréférendumenFranceIt is exactly eleven PM. Can we come to another topic which ((inc.)) of Europe and since that is important, too, ((breathe)) euh, Europe which is not doing too well today euh two years after the failure of the referendum in France. VousavezdonnévotrepetitepichenetteaspiresYou've had your little taunt. ((breathes)) EuhononononpeutavoirdessoucisEh˙ ((0.5s)) you you/ you you can have your doubts... JenesuispassortiedemesgondsVouspermettezParcequemoiaussi,j'ail'intentiondemefairerespecterJenesuispassortiedemesgondsJecroisquecequinousdifférenciec'estunevisiondelamoralepolitiqueEtjepensequ'ilfautquelesdiscourssoientcohérentsaveclesactesEtquequandilyuntelécartonnepeutpasavoirdétruitl'acceuildesenfantshandicapésàl'écoleI haven't lost my composure. • • Allow me. Because, I too have the intention of getting some respect. • • I haven't lost my composure. I think what differentiates us • • is a vision of political morals. • • • And I think • • • it is necessary that your words correspond to your actions. • • • And when there is such a gap you cannot have destroyed the admission of handicapped children in school. C'estfaux,MadameThat's wrong Madame. Non,çan'estpasfauxaspireNo that is not wrong. ((breathes)) Ilyatroisfoisplusd'enfantsscolhandicapésscolarisésaujourd'huiqu'àvotreépoque,MadameThese days there are three times more handicapped children at school than in your time, Madame. Cen'estpasvraiThat's not right. Cen'estpasvraiThat's not right. C'estfaux,MadameThat's wrong, Madame. VousvenezderéfléchiràcetargumentYou had better think about this argument. Ehvousn'avezpasYou have not... Touteslesassociationsontprotestéauprèsdevousparcequevousavezsupprimélesauxiliairesd'intégrationEtdoncetdoncdevousdevotregouvernementdevotregouvernementDoncdoncvoilànesoyezpascondescendantNesoyezpasEtvoussavezaspires'ilyavaitdetempsentempsaspiredescolèressainesaspirecommecelaparrapportauxinjusticesaspireouparrapportàundiscourspolitiquequinecorrespondentpasauxactesEhbien,sansdouteehbien,sansdoute,elleestelleestsaineAll associations • • have made complaints with you because you have got rid of the integration helpers. • • Well then/ • • well then • with you/ with your government with your government. • • Well/ • • • well now don't be patronizing. • • Don't be. And, you know ((breathes)) if there is from time to time ((breathes)) a sane anger ((breathes)) like that with respect to the injustice ((breathes)) or with respect to a political discourse which does not correspond to actions. Well, without doubt/ • • well, without doubt, • it is/ • • it is sane. Cen'estpasexactThat is not correct. Cen'estpasBonenfinjen'aijamaisétéMinistredel'ÉducationNationale,MadameThat is not... (Well after all) I never was minister of education, Madame. Boninc.,excusez-moiWell • • ((inc.)) excuse me. Jej'aijamaisétéPremierministrenonplusMaismaismaisI/ • • • I've never been Prime Minister either. • • But/ but/ • • but... Maisjenelesuispasdutout,MadameBut I am not at all, Madame. JelesuispasdutoutI am not at all. Maisenquoiestellesaine,votrecolèreBut in how far is it sane, your anger? Traitervotrecontradicteurd'immoraleetdementeur,jevoispascequeçaadesainetd'utileVousavezlavisionsectairevousavezlaseclavisionsectairedelagaucheToutepersonnequinepensepasexactementcommevousaspireestforcémentunillégitimeAbonc'estcommeça• Treating your opponent as an immoral • • and as a liar, I don't see how this can be sane • • and useful. • • You have the sectarian attitude you have the sec/ • • • the sectarian attitude of the Left. • • • • Anybody who does think exactly like you ((breathes)) is inevitably illegitimate. • • Well that's how it is! aspireJevousaipastraitéd'immoraleetdementeurJ'aidit((breathes)) I haven't treated you as an immoral and as a liar. I said… se racle la gorge((clears throat)) se racle la gorge((clears throat)) se racle la gorge((clears throat)) JeconnaislaformulePasdutoutI know the formula. Not at all! PasdutoutPasdutoutAucontraireNot at all! • • Not at all! Quite to the contrary! Est-cequevousnouspermettezdeparlerd'EuropeCan we speak about Europe? inc.caronestinc.SégolèneRoyalensuiteparlerinc.((inc.)) 'cause we are ((inc.)) Ségolène Royal then • • talk • • ((inc.)) inc.çaparceque((inc.) that because… ÇameparaîtimportantThat seems important to me. Non,jinc.jepensequec'estjepensequec'estNo, I/ ((inc.)) I think that it is • • • I think that it is… Ilestvingt-troisheuresettrèsbieninc.aborderdessujetsinternationauxIt is eleven PM and… • very good ((incomprehensible)) deal with international subjects. Yinc.MadameRoyal,est-cequ'onpeutterminerlà-dessusetenchaînerensuitesurlaquestioneuropéenne• • ((inc.)) Madame Royal can we finish with that one and continue with the European question? Ouibiensûr(Yes of course) Biensûr,biensûr,biensûrParcequejecroisquecedébataspireesttrèsimportantC'esttouteuneconceptiondelaviepolitiqueetdelaresponsabilitépolitiquequiestlàaspireSionn'estresponsablederiensionadescomptesàrendrejamaissurcesactespolitiques,aspiremaiscommentvoulez-vousquelescitoyenscroientencoreàl'éfficacitédel'actionpolitiqueaspireEtcedontjeparlejeleconnaisaspirecedontjeparlejeleOuietilfautOf course, of course, of course. Because I think this debate ((breathes)) is very important. • • That is an entire conception • • of political life and of political responsibility • • that is at stake. ((breathes)) If we are not responsible for anything • • if we are never held accountable for these political acts, ((breathes)) then how do you want the citizens to continue to believe in the effectiveness of political action? ((breathes)) And what I am talking about • • I know it/ ((breathes)) what I am talking about I…Yes and you have to… inc.biensûr((inc.)) (of course). Etc'estunec'estunequestiondeconceptiondelapolitiqueAnd that is a/ • • that is a question of the conception of politics. IlfautsavoirgardersoncalmeetsesnerfsYou have to stay calm and not lose your nerves. EtutiliserdesmotsquinesontpasdesmotsquiblessentParcequequandonemploiedesmotsquandonemploiedesmotsquiblessent,ondivisesonpeuple,alorsqu'ilfautlerassemblerAnd use words • • that are words that do not offend. Because if you use word/ • • • when you use words that offend you divide your people • • • when you should unite them. inc.MaislesmotsneblessentpasCesontlesactionsquiblessentBut words do not offend. It is actions that offend. Vousêtesblessé,euhMonsieurAre you offended euh Monsieur? VousêtesblesséBon,alorstoutvatrèsbien•Are you offended? • • Well everything is fine then. NonpourmoiPuisvoussavezmoijeNo for me… • • You know me I… BennonPuisjejeveuxmêmevousdirequelquechose,jevousjevousenveuxpas,parcecequeçapeutarriveràtoutlemondedes'énerverWell no. • • Can I/ I event want to tell you something I am/ I am not angry with you because it can happen to anybody, losing their nerve. ToutvatrèsbienEverything is fine. TousvatrèsbienEverything is fine. Non,jenem'énervejenem'énervepasJemerévolteCarj'aigardémacapacitéderévolteintacteNo • • I am not losing/ I am not losing my nerves. I am outraged! • • • Because I've kept my sense of revolt. Alorscommentvoulez-vousfairel'unetl'autrepourrelanceràlamachineeuropéennes'ilvousplaîtSo, please, what will you do, one and the other, to restart the European machine?