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ỜmKhởisựđóthìờmKhimớisangCa-na-đabắtđầuviếtvănnămbảymươichínthìtôiviếttayThếlàviếtởđảoĐếnlúcmàởtrạitịnạnthìtôiviếttayThếthìsangtớiCa-na-đathìờmcómộtngườiờđịnhcưtrướcmuatặngchotôicáimáychữcũThìtôiđánhcáimáyđónóhưThìtôiđánhthêmbốncáimáychữnữaThìnóđềuhưcảLàtạivìờcáilượngviếtcủatôilúcđónónhiềuquáThìờmSaunàyđóthìtôiơtoicũngdùngcáiki-bohìnhthứccùm-biêu-tơNhưngmàtrongmộtcáicùm-biêu-tơtôimuamàchỉdùngcómộtviệcduynhấtlàđánhmáythôiVàchođếngiờnàythìtôivẫnphảibỏdấutayThànhthểrabaygiờthìcáiviệcviếtcủatôinórấtbấtđiệnỞchổrằngThídụanhlàmbáomàtôigữibàichoanhanhlạiphảimướnngườihaychínhanhngồiđánhmáylấyThìanhchántôilắm((1s))Ehm. ((1,7s))The beginning of the story is ehm… ((1,1s))When I first came to Canada and started writing in nineteen seventy nine • • I wrote by hand. • • That was on the island. • • • When I lived in a refugee camp I wrote by hand. ((1,1s))So when I arrived in Canada there ehm • • • was a person who had already been there • • and who bought me an old typewriter. ((1,1s))So I used it until it was out of order. • • So I typed with • • four several typewriters. • • • And they were all broken too. • • Because back then I wrote too much.((2,4s))So ehm… ((1,1s))After that • • I also eh • • I also used a keyboard-based computer. • • • But the computer that I bought • was only good for mere typing.((1,4s))And up to now I still have to put the diacritic marks by hand. ((1,6s))For that reason • • my current writing activity is very inconvenient. The reason is… ((1,2s))For instance, if you work for a magazine • • and I'll send my text to you you'll have to hire someone else or you must receive it yourself. • • So you'd feel very sick and tired of me. ́́cười, 0,9s((laughing, 0,9s)) ThànhthểraChínhvìvậymàTôithìờcũnghơingoancốmộttíxiếuChonênlàmọingườicứbảolà:"Tạisaoanhkhôngcóchịuờđánhmáyơcùm-biêu-tơcódấutiếngViệtRồianhi-mâychochúngtôiThếthìờmchúngtôichỉcóviệclay-aorồichoxuốngthôi"For that reason… • • Due to that fact… • • I am eh • • also a little too stubborn.• • For this reason • • everybody keeps saying: "Why don't you like eh • writing on eh • a computer with Vietnamese diacritic marks? • • And then you email it to us.• • So ehm • • we • just have to do the layout and have it printed." Nhưvậylàtómlạilàanhdịhướngvớicùm-biêu-tơCóthểdùngchữnhưvậyđượcSo you are allergic to computers.May I put it that way? đặng hắng, 0,5sThậtsựthìnónhưthếnàythưaanhLàTôinghĩthìlâuNhưngtôiviếtthìrấtnhanhMàvìviếtnhanhnhưvậyđóchonênlàtôinghĩrằngnếubaygiờtôihọcbỏdấuthìtôisợrằnglàcáitaymìnhnóđánhlạichậmhơncáchýnghĩcủamìnhtiếng nói phía sau, 2,3sThìtiếng nói phía sau, 1,5smìnhsơmìnhviếtkhôngkiệpthìnómấtcáicáidòngtưtưởngThànhratôicứđánhtheocáithóiquenđãhaimươinămnayLàcứhaingón,ngóntaymổcòthôiNhưngmànórấtlànhanhSauđóđóthìờtôidùngbútbỏdấutayVớicáimụđíchlàđểbắtmìnhphảiđọclaịCònnếukhôngmìnhlừaquámìnhđánhxongơmìnhi-maycáilànóxongThìbaygiờnóbắtmìnhphảiđọclạiThìcáilúcmàmìnhđọclạiđóthìcóthểđôikhimìnhsửachữđượcmộtvàicáiquanđiểmhaymộtvàicáichữthiếtthìmìnhcholàsaihaylàcầnphảithêmvào(( clears his throat, 0,5s)) • • Well, the truth is as follows.((2,1s))That is… ((4,8s))I need much time to think. • • • But I write very quickly. ((1,5s)) But because I can write that fast ((1,1s)) I think that if now I learned how to put these marks I'm afraid that • • my hand would write more slowly than my thoughts.((background babbling, 2,3s)) So ((background babbling, 1,5s)) I'm afraid that I couldn't write that fast and my/ my ideas would get lost. ((1,1s))For that reason I haven't changed my typing habit • • for twenty years. • • That is • a two-finger, two-finger gripper. But that works very fast. ((1,1s))After that eh • • I put the marks with a pen. • • The purpose is • to force myself to re-read it. • • • Otherwise, I'd be very lazy after I have typed my text and eh I'd email it and everything is done. • • • But by this way I'm forced to proofread it. • • And when I do my proofreading I sometimes have the opportunity of changing some points • • or some expressions which I consider inappropriate or need to be modified. Thưaanh,giảsựcóngườinóirằnganhlàmộtMCờpháinamđẹpgiainhấtThìanhtrảilờicáicáchnàochonónghenódểchịumàngườinàocũngthểchấpnhậnđượccâutrảlờiấyđó• • • Tell me, if someone claims you are a MC • • eh with the most appealing appearance. What would you reply • • so that/ • • so that it sounds nice and everybody could live with that answer? ƠTôithìtôikhôngtincáicâuđóngườitanóilàthậthaylàđúngĐôikhichúngtacónhữngngườibạnhoạcnhữngngườithânMàkháchquanmànóithìkhôngxấuớmàkhôngđẹpNếukhôngnóilàxấuNhưngmàkhimàchúngtanhìnmãinóthànhquenthìmìnhkhôngthấyngườiđóxấuTôinhgĩrầnglàkhángiảcóthểlàhằngngàyhọcoi"ParisbyNight"thìhọthấytôiDầndầnnọthànhquenmặtThànhthểraVìthấychonênhọthấycảmthấygầngũivàhọnóithếthôiChứcònxấuđẹpgìmộtônggiàsáumươimốttuổinhưtôi((1,1s))Eh. • • • I don't believe this claim by that person • • to be honest or true. • • Sometimes we have good acquaintances • or close friends. • • • But • • if an acquaintace says that, it's neither bad eh • • nor good. • • If it's not meant bad. But if we look at a person for a considerable time then we don't consider that person unbeautiful. • • • I think that the audience• • may watch "Paris by Night" daily and sees me there. • • And gradually it gets used to me. • • For this reason… • • Because it often sees me it feels connected with me and • it only says that. • • So there 's nothing beautiful about • an old man of sixty-one years like me! AnhcócảmthấymệtmỏitrongcáinghềMCkhông• • Do you feel exhausted in your job as a MC? ỜmcóchứanhNghềnàocũngthấykhimìnhlàmlâuquáMìnhcũngthấymệtmỏivàNhấtlàmộtcáinghềmàanhphảitiếpxúcvớikhángiảThìcáimệtmỏitrongcáilosợởchổrằnglàkhôngbiếtlàkhángiảngườitacócònthíchmìnhhaykhôngMàmìnhcứơshownàomìnhcũngđứngđóThìcáiđólàmộtcáiloâulớnnhấtmàcôKỳDuyênvớitôithườngbàngvớinhautrongchuyệnđóVàtôinghĩlànghệsĩnóichungaicũnglocáiđóEhm • • of course! Every job is exhausting when you've done it for a long period. • • You always feel tired and… Especially, a job where you have to interact with the audience. So the weariness lies • • in your uncertaintybecause you don't know • • if the audience still likes you or not? • • Because eh • • you are present at each show.• • So that is the greatest worry• • that Ky Duyen and I often talk about in this regard. • • And I think that every artist is concerned about that in general. ThưaanhlatrongmộtcáishowthườngnóchỉkéodàivàitiếngNhưngmàcáisựchuẩnbịthìờthờilượngthờigiannónhưthếnào• • Well, a show usually lasts only a couple of hours.But with respect to the preparation eh • how much/ how long does it take? ThưaanhcónhữngcáiơcónhữngcáichủđềmàkhôngcầnphảichuẩnbịnhiềulấmKhimàmìnhđãbiếtnhiềuThídụnhưnămngoáichúngtôilàmcuốnTếtrấtlàcôngphu"XuânThaHương"haylàcuốnTếtmàthứhaimàtứclà"TếtKhắpMọiNhà"sắpratiếng ồn phía sau, 1,7sÀthếnhưngmàthếnhưngmàvấnđềlàThídụcónhữngcáiđiềumàtrongcáikiếnthứccủamìnhcósẵndocáisựgópnhặttrongmìnhmìnhđọcsáchtừnhỏ,mìnhhọctừnhỏThìmìnhchỉviệcnóirathìnódểNhưngmàcũngcónhữngcáiđiềunómớimẻmàmìnhphảitracứuThìcáiđónómấtcông• • • Well, there are eh/ • • there are some topics • for which you need not work a lot. • • If you already knew a great deal. • • For example, last year we worked really hard on the New Year volume. "New Year abroad" or the second volume "New Year is at each house" which will be released very soon. ((background noise, 1,7s)) Eh, but/ • • but a topic like…((1,1s))For example, there are many things • • which are part of your knowledge • • • due to the books you've read in your childhood, you • • have studied when you were young. • • So talking about these things is quite easy. • • But there are also new things that require a lot of research. • • And this involves a lot of work. RiêngvềlảnhluậtMCởhảingoạivàtrongnướcanhcónhữngcáinhậnxétnàovậy• • • With respect to the role of a MC abroad and within Vietnam, • • what obervation have you made? Thưatôichỉcómộtcáinhậnxétnónhưthếnày:Làtrướcnanămbảymươilămờ,củamìnhởmiềnNamthìgầnnhưlàkhôngaiđặtcáiMCthànhmộtcáijobhaylàmộtcáinghềhaylàmộtcáicôngviệcnónócáitiếngnóquantrọngVàthườngthườngtrongmộtcáibủivânnghệnhưvậythìngườitađẩymộtngườinghệsĩhoạcmộtnhạcsĩlênđứngnóivàicâuthôiHoạclàcũngcónhữngngườiờnghệsĩhàihướcchuyểnsanglàmhoạcnáoviênchocáichươngtrìnhRahảingoạiđóthìchúngtathấycáivaitròhostnhữngcáishowcủaMỹNhữngngườiMCnótrởthànhquáquantrọngThìtôikhitôiratôihọccáilốicủahọChonêntôiápdụngvàotrong"ParisbyNight"khitôibắtđầulênsânkhấucáchnaymườibốnnămThìtừđóớthìtôicảmthấtrằnglàcàngngàyỜ,tôicũngkhôngngờNhưngmàdodocáiphảnứngcủakhángiảquathưtừ,quasựgặpgỡtiếpxúcthìtôimớithấynhậnlàhóaramìnhcócáivịtrímàmìnhphảitôntrọngnóNếumàmìnhkhôngtôntrọngcáicôngviệcmìnhlàmthìlàmsaomàmìnhbắtkhángiảngườitadànhcáisựyêuthươngđốivớimìnhThànhtôithấycáivaitròđó((1,2s))Well, I've made the following observation:Before • • the yea/ years in seventy five• • eh, of mine • in the south of Vietnam • • • it seemed like nobody considered • a MC • as a jobor a profession or an activity of any importance. • • • And in such entertainment evenings there was usually an actor or a singer who said something on the stage.Or there were also someeh, comedians who did that part • or who just entertained the audience.• • • Being abroad, we realised the role of a MC in American shows.• • And all those MCs turned out to be too important. • • So I've learned from them. That's why I've applied it to "Paris by Night"when I first entered the stage fourteen years ago.• • And since then eh • • I increasingly came to realize that… • • Eh, I didn't expect that myself. But thanks to the/ the reaction of the audience through letters, through personal encounters • • I then understood that I have a position • which is worth being appreciated. • • If I myself don't appreciate my own work,then how can I expect that from my audience that supports me?So I think of this role